My treatises on the Kino Casino/Killstream scam

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I want to start this out with the definition of professional wrestling(PW henceforth). I also feel it important to point out that warski, Ralph, PPP, and the rest are heavy into the PW scene. Most formed around Tonka saw for that exact reason. They will often use terms like heel turn and being a heel or baby face or kayfabe etc. It's clear they enjoy that entertainment and incorporate that lingo and perhaps more into their own shows.

The primary issue with this is that in diagnosing warskis actions it's hard to tell stupidity from plotting. At first I took a stance that the fued with Ralph was legit but more and more things have piled up and I've held my personal opinion that this whole thing is a racket for a minute now. I'll lay out my points systematically.

A grand conspiracy:
For starters I don't believe everyone is in on it. I believe the audience, as in PW, is clueless and I imagine most of the people they work with and around don't know, if true, the 3 are in bed.

The fued begins:
So the fued in the beginning made zero sense. Andy left the show because Ralph wouldn't tweet out his show and didn't pay him. Warski not being retweets is whatever but warski has almost the same follower count and shares almost the exact same followers. It's no where near like if say Geek wanted a retweet. No one follows geek so a retweet would mean a lot. As for getting paid warski wasn't a co-host. He would pop in from time to time. He's not some scub streamer. He knows showing up on someone's stream doesn't earn you a dime. He's never to my knowledge expected or asked payment for coming on someone's stream. Why he would expect that of Ralph? Idk. Seems like an excuse to cut ties to heel turn.

Lack of real attacks:
Like one thing that legit makes me question stuff is Ralph AND Andy avoid all life ruining attacks that are and have been on the table for years. The most damaging thing to Ralph is his relationship with ade and faith. Both of which warski and PPP are adversarial with. Those 2 offer the biggest and likely interesting things. They never cover that. Cog does. Plenty of people have like Josh. Not those 2 tho. On Ralph's end he will mention the abortski thing and aim aim aim, all things people have long since never given the ghost on. He won't mention for example that the Snapchat logs with Andy were never debonked. He video of the logs is real and the girl was found to be underage but the girl was dismissed as a clout chaser and anal vape pixie. Warski was suppose to show emails from Snapchat showing they deleted his account and he didn't in panic but he's never released that email. Ralph could throw him under the bus and say warski actually did look at CP and say it was all on warskis end. Frankly even with the abortski narrative it's always the "you krilled you own son" but no one brings up he literally blackmailed and extorted senaed to get the abortion which she did NOT want to do. All attacks between the two are all "above the waist". Imo

Lying to ruin credibility:
One thing Cog has hammered Warski and PPP on is their propensity for lying about stuff which makes it easy for Ralph to earn Ws by just pointing out the lie. They'll lie about the most simple shyt. Stuff EVERYONE knows is fake news like Faith being 17 when they hooked up. No Nora was 17 when Ralph started with her but faith post-breakup maintains the age was 18. So why lie? Maybe it's a feature and not a flaw. If Andy was working WITH Ralph they they can do a 50/50 and the constant lies makes it far easier for legit criticism to be pushed under the rug on the offchance someone has something legit damaging. Just saying.

Why the act:
Simple, Anti-Ralphers have money and they want to give that money for going after Ralph and America First. What better arrangement than sending in a Trojan horse to ham it up and get the haters money and in return you have controlled opposition. Best of both worlds. Andy splits a cut with Ralph and Ralph reacts to them almost exclusively to make them the premiere anti Ralph and AF stream to watch. After all if the lolcow you dislike is getting upset and reacting almost exclusively to the streams and videos of 1 channel you'll likely wanna be there to be a part of the action like in PW. It's both a grift and a shield IMO.

Proof:
Like I said proof is legit hard to tell stupidity from a planned thing. 2 that stick out in my mind heavily are: Powerchat and Bibble. Powerchat for those who don't know is a streamer donation service Andy and PPP used almost exclusively. It was the one they pushed the hardest. This is also owned by Fuentes and Baked Alaska. Two of the people Warski and PPP target for their streams almost exclusively. One would have to be extremely greedy or stupid to use the payment service of someone you shit on day in and out where your donators have to give out all of their financial data and dox to give you money. I find it both strange warski would use that so heavily but also that Baked Alaska, Ralph, and Fuentes never brought that up OR capitalized on it after it was "discovered". Like if I were baked I'd be posting a spreadsheet of blurred information with donation amts and chat msgs and bragging "WR GOT THEIR INFO GUYS! TALK ABOUT STUPID. WE KNOW ALL YOUR DONATORS BRO!" like nothing but "uh yeah we own it", and like they only even discussed it heavily when Jim took an interesting and started discussing it before he went on to grill Andy and PPP. So maybe they both had a vested interest in that relationship to be secret for as long as possible. Maybe their was a reason they didn't brag about having the info even tho their audience who view the casino as an enemy would find it hilarious and would boost moral. Nothing really came of that tho and even on Ralph's side they never really bring that up to dunk on the casino.
The bibble part I'll keep short because who cares about Bibble BUT he's an obvious Ralph guy and is heavily on his side and always has been. To work with him is downright stupid on a good day and how would warski NOT figure that would be dumb esp when Andy has had 2 channels stolen and used due to giving his partners channel access. It would make sense if Warski was not really Ralph's enemy and had no issues working with his "enemies". Was Bibble not in the know and violated warskis channel without knowing (if it's kayfabe), or was he in the knowing and it was a publicity stunt? Or is the fued real and warski is legit retarded again? Who knows.

I might edit this later and structure it better but I figured I'd celebrate my birthday with a skitzopost. Lmk your opinions.
 
Ralph could throw him under the bus and say warski actually did look at CP and say it was all on warskis end
Why would Gunt remind everyone that he looked at himself. You fail to mention Fapmenco and Augie. THis is one of the reasons the Pedmenco stream with Godwinson tanked. Note that Augie hasn't faced any of the shit from that stream. Warski to this day won't hear a word against him.
I might edit this later and structure it better but I figured I'd celebrate my birthday with a skitzopost. Lmk your opinions
Provide citations from streams. That helps build a case. I recommend you watch Pork chops (Shalom!)... it might help with "context".

btw Happy birthday.
 
The powerchat thing, my thought on that is simple greed more than collusion. They thought Loulz owned it entirely, not baked, and also it took a much MUCH smaller percent than other payment processors. Rather than just admit that, PPP defaults to his false (sarcastic/ironic) sense of moral outrage, that somehow being accused of it makes him the victim and Warski, understanding the gravy train was derailing, appeases me and others with a "we're sorry" and they scramble to copy Loulz's site to make their own.

::Edit for context:: I was a a trained and working Indie Pro Wrestler for a few years, did not like the life style and knew i was never going to be a big time so I retired and moved on.

I think all these wrasslin marks THINK they are doing "kayfabe" but being marks, and not actually "smart to the business", they get the whole methodology of how to work a crowd wrong. If it were a work, they would have had a one on one faceoff by now, or some kind of blow off event where they come face to face(even if that means online in a call) and make money off it. So far that has not happened and I don't expect it will because I think its more like this:

PPP and Warski think they are doing a work but Ralph isn't in on it, and is also a retard. I don't think Ralph is in on it. Ralph is a shoot, and PPP is trying to do a work, and when you work a shoot, you shoot yourself into a work of a shoot, brother. -HH

My evidence is IF it were a work, Ralph would have Fought Warski on the biggest stage either of them would have ever had, for a lot of money, in the O2 Arena, since its a work. That didn't happen.

All that said, Its a fun theory and if people find evidence for it they should post it here and keep it going lol.
 
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Ralph being too afraid to fight Warski and his entire actions surrounding setting up the fight in my eyes disprove your theory of Warski and ralph working together. They definitely both have a mutually beneficial relationship though, and know it. Neither would get as much money or publicity if they didnt talk about each other. I think PPP is more neurotic than he lets on.
 
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Ralph being too afraid to fight Warski and his entire actions surrounding setting up the fight in my eyes disprove your theory of Warski and ralph working together. They definitely both have a mutually exclusive relationship though, and know it. Neither would get as much money or publicity if they didnt talk about each other. I think PPP is more neurotic than he lets on.
Nah remember how friendly they were when they were talking together. Ralph didn't care about the fight so much as he cared about the stipulation as you'll recall. That was his main gripe. You may call it blame shifting but imagine that you're in my scenario as Ralph. You're not afraid of warski because you and he will kayfabe it. You will however have to clean up your image which means cucking your speech to a group of teens who like you being outwardly verbose and using the funny no-no words and if you and warski have this idea and you've managed to do this large display getting new revived attention to your show with the kayfabe and even getting papa Jim on to talk to you.... well you don't wanna lose that forward momentum and slide back into obscurity.

As for me I got the kinda proof I require to make this case at least...... 65% confirmed. The writers of the show came on and did a fuck warski stream basically and laid out a lot of the backroom info. They get the clips and let the guys know exactly what the situation is and they basically run the show. They confirmed they're Ralph fans. Basically it means to me the Ralph segments were meant to boost interest and not harm.

 
Nah remember how friendly they were when they were talking together. Ralph didn't care about the fight so much as he cared about the stipulation as you'll recall. That was his main gripe. You may call it blame shifting but imagine that you're in my scenario as Ralph. You're not afraid of warski because you and he will kayfabe it. You will however have to clean up your image which means cucking your speech to a group of teens who like you being outwardly verbose and using the funny no-no words and if you and warski have this idea and you've managed to do this large display getting new revived attention to your show with the kayfabe and even getting papa Jim on to talk to you.... well you don't wanna lose that forward momentum and slide back into obscurity.

As for me I got the kinda proof I require to make this case at least...... 65% confirmed. The writers of the show came on and did a fuck warski stream basically and laid out a lot of the backroom info. They get the clips and let the guys know exactly what the situation is and they basically run the show. They confirmed they're Ralph fans. Basically it means to me the Ralph segments were meant to boost interest and not harm.

No you don't have proof, if it was "Kayfabe" (word for faggots) they would have 100% fought each other. Just because Ralph can act cordial in a business meeting is proof of nothing. Do you think people are cartoon characters that squeal on command?
It also comes off as pretty inept in the OP when you call out KC for their "lies" like Faith's age. Nobody believes she is 17 they are obviously lying to make Ralph upset. Everyone knows she's 18, everyone knows Ralph didnt eat shit, you seem to be missing a whole layer behind all of this.
 
If Ralph and Warski are secretly friends and this is all kayfabe faggotry than this is the greatest gay op ever done.

Now as far as PPP i can almost 100% guarantee he isnt in on being friends with Ralph or anyone for that matter (except maybe godwinson). Ive watched PPP for so long now and can promise you Ralph and him would kill eachother if they met, and PPP would snake on Andy for the most minor reason if needed.

I like the Warski Ralph secret alliance tho cause i could possibly see them doing that tbh.

I think Godwinson and PPP are gas lighting us and this is actually a long running gay op by them tho. They love 4D checkers. (Chess too complicated)
 
No you don't have proof, if it was "Kayfabe" (word for faggots) they would have 100% fought each other. Just because Ralph can act cordial in a business meeting is proof of nothing. Do you think people are cartoon characters that squeal on command?
It also comes off as pretty inept in the OP when you call out KC for their "lies" like Faith's age. Nobody believes she is 17 they are obviously lying to make Ralph upset. Everyone knows she's 18, everyone knows Ralph didnt eat shit, you seem to be missing a whole layer behind all of this.
its true Ralph didnt do that shit its just memes
 
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